tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post8390431420127658933..comments2023-09-18T02:56:01.703-07:00Comments on Walter Kirn's Permanent Morning: The Uses of Charlie Sheen, A Wittgensteinian Investigation.Walter Kirn or "Walt"http://www.blogger.com/profile/09791836439071305007noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-85641969307539161242017-08-30T12:21:49.047-07:002017-08-30T12:21:49.047-07:00Thank you
http://you-should-know0.blogspot.com.eg/...Thank you<br />http://you-should-know0.blogspot.com.eg/2017/08/hiv-advocates-are-in-state-of-serious.html<br /><br />charlie sheen<br />.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-9068011848647343532014-06-19T04:09:12.774-07:002014-06-19T04:09:12.774-07:00the story is very interesting, I like it very much...the story is very interesting, I like it very much <br /><br /><br /><a href="geraibukumuslim.com" rel="nofollow">Toko buku islam</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10599812473252186599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-65591779459314980472013-11-13T12:22:43.955-08:002013-11-13T12:22:43.955-08:00I'm convinced you're right about Charlie S...I'm convinced you're right about Charlie Sheen having Parkinsons disesase. Which would be sadly ironic since he was signed on to replace M. J. Fox on spin city, or it was knownbthen and its possibly one of the factors for why Michael j Fox and co choose him as the replacement lead. either way it seems extremely obvious especially on the latest season of his new show anger management that hes suffering from Parkinsons his speech patterns and physical symptoms mirror that of Michael J Fox and others suffering from the disease.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03528693767618090595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-82370999789562225492011-03-09T09:37:21.170-08:002011-03-09T09:37:21.170-08:00And there is the matter of the attention economy –...And there is the matter of the attention economy – every utterance from Sheen aspires to be a banknote that expresses his value as an object of the audiences’ attention. To accomplish this that he has, of course, to convince the media that he is an object of interest. His popularity through Two and a Half man and former escapades ensure that. But staying interesting is a matter of competition with other celebrities who offer their “authenticity” as being of greater value. What we see with Sheen (calculated, psychological disordered or both) are his attempts to break through the “clutter” and claim ownership of the public’s attention. Its working but it is storing up contradictions: <br />(a) He claims to appreciate his fans and yet is contemptuous of ordinary people – Middle America.<br />(b) He claims to be a professional in control of his craft and yet makes much romantic hay out of consuming alcohol, drugs etc.<br />(c) He claims to be authentic yet on Sheen makes use of a very contrived set of “actorly” gestures and expressions (duh etc) that point back to the artifice of the media and to the fact he is performing.<br />(d) He claims to be a family man and a systematic sexual adventurer – the goddesses.<br />(e) He claims to be unemployed and yet is obviously very wealthy.<br />(f) He is prone to emphasize he is only doing it for the money alongside claims for doing it for “art”.<br />These contradictions are the fuel of the celebrity system but at a certain point Sheen’s performances will become stilted and have a “been there, done that quality” and worst of all, fan’s will feel they have wasted their time and turn to another celebrity.Tibbockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09807790484734610437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-8852458689889460302011-03-09T01:07:53.350-08:002011-03-09T01:07:53.350-08:00Charlie Sheen could be a man out of his time. I no...Charlie Sheen could be a man out of his time. I noted elsewhere that in some distant past, with his grandiose pronouncements and odd metaphors, he would have been hailed as a prophet or an oracle.jooleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17466702847534380831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-25386791578675964132011-03-08T10:54:41.697-08:002011-03-08T10:54:41.697-08:00Cinemasailor, I think you deserve a little trophy ...Cinemasailor, I think you deserve a little trophy for that one.Walter Kirn or "Walt"https://www.blogger.com/profile/09791836439071305007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-17315917397208376832011-03-07T15:33:20.415-08:002011-03-07T15:33:20.415-08:00Charlie Sheen provides a way for the news to appea...Charlie Sheen provides a way for the news to appear to be news while still not being news. By which I mean: when "real" news breaks (the Bush/Gore election delay, Sept. 11, Hurricane Katrina, the Egyptian uprising), it cuts against the pre-existing structures of spin designed to contain it (press conferences, politicians' public declarations, the ordinary news cycle, etc.). Sheen's situation is *just* edgy enough (he's almost certainly bipolar -- lucid but right on the edge of being non-broadcastable, self-destructive but not actually dead, like Michael Jackson) to make news coverage of him feel as edgy as that covering a fast-unfolding natural or political disaster, while still in fact being simple tabloid fodder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-66014668682540798362011-03-07T12:36:40.253-08:002011-03-07T12:36:40.253-08:00Jerry Weissman wrote a blog this morning on Charli...Jerry Weissman wrote a blog this morning on Charlie Sheen that references your take.<br />http://www.powerltd.com/_blog/Blogs/post/Charlie_Sheen_and_Nike/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07816921303266922486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-73640777281343499682011-03-07T06:33:05.365-08:002011-03-07T06:33:05.365-08:00Three uses for Charlie Sheen in the English Lit. c...Three uses for Charlie Sheen in the English Lit. classroom (high school–age):<br /><br />1. Character parallel. Sula seems crazy? Gatsby's a wack-job? (Man, wait'll they get Heathcliff in AP Lit. next year . . . ) Strange or grotesque as those fictional characters may be, they have their crazy-ass correlative in the real world. Character comes first; motivation is fathoms-deep and oft-unplumbable.<br /><br />2. Relief. High school is rough going for everyone (except those people who, years later, will think of it as the best time they ever had; those people are a mystery to me). What Sheen (or any Sheen-type human) provides is, by contrast, the feeling of relative individual and contextual stability, no matter one's family circumstances or internal roilings.<br /><br />3. Or, contrariwise: Recognition. "Yes, I also think wildly, but cannot give it voice. Isn't every moment a performance? Don't you find me convincing? If not, I will step closer, project more boldly, and compel you to keep watching.William Prestonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07896164917625191919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-24876030983418164782011-03-07T06:29:59.003-08:002011-03-07T06:29:59.003-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.William Prestonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07896164917625191919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-42770560774491844722011-03-07T04:50:40.733-08:002011-03-07T04:50:40.733-08:00I know next to nothing about Charlie Sheen but I a...I know next to nothing about Charlie Sheen but I am learning a lot about Walter Kirn -- the heir of the sorely-missed George W.S. Trow of "In the Context of No Context.' It may well be that Charlie Sheen is insufficient as object to this astonishing verbal ingenuity which is at the same time a torrent of self-replicating or fractal insight, but never mind that -- I'm in awe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-60955515856153373012011-03-06T22:56:45.392-08:002011-03-06T22:56:45.392-08:00This is great stuff, Walter. Made my day.This is great stuff, Walter. Made my day.M. Heatheringtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14959055259357103912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-74096479675923775422011-03-05T09:31:19.998-08:002011-03-05T09:31:19.998-08:00"you get this distinct weird feeling that Cha..."you get this distinct weird feeling that Charlie Sheen is the only person in the whole universe incapable of actually enjoying, actually getting off on in a deep way that really sticks to the neurons afterward, the myriad pleasures of Homo Malibu that were formerly open to Charlie Sheen."<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anhedonia#CausesShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01469783233710446930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-46289298196920477712011-03-04T07:28:57.562-08:002011-03-04T07:28:57.562-08:00He is a cautionary tale against the plans for the ...He is a cautionary tale against the plans for the fifth edition of the DSM - as they're looking at doing away with the Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Due to, essentially, "everyone having it." Well, hold on there - looks like Sheen is winning in that respect.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04151527295942732613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-73342117917007320092011-03-03T18:50:19.892-08:002011-03-03T18:50:19.892-08:00Eight years in those mines? Good Traci Lords! No w...Eight years in those mines? Good Traci Lords! No wonder. Charlie Sheen's meglomania is but the cure that will kill him. He's been suffering as traumatic a work-related alienation as the prostitutes he abuses. But, you see, man, he figured it out, man. Despite its Taylorist humor, the show orbits Sheen's dark star. Marx, Warner Bros. executive, expected capitalism would render industrial processes transparent, unlocked from the minds of artisans. The thin margins on which such shows teeter, however, give its celebutards, like quants in the derivatives market, monopoly power. That is, he's got Chuck Lorre by the balls. No Charlie, no show. After so long hating himself enough to work there, he's throwing his body on the gears, only too late to salve the mortal wounds he incurred to make the break. Call me crazy, Charlie's strike is an unwitting and discomforting blow for labor. His death [Charlie, would you give a sad look here?] will dramatize Wisconsin gone south.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04233844717905722852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-20717331654185932352011-03-03T17:29:08.334-08:002011-03-03T17:29:08.334-08:00Charlie Sheen's cheese has completely slipped ...Charlie Sheen's cheese has completely slipped off his cracker. It is sad because he had a really funny sitcom. If you like funny stuff, check out the <a href="http://www.offcolorfun.com" rel="nofollow">funny videos</a> at Off Color Fun.Bluegrass Pundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13692965298692361473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-75644049007528126202011-03-03T06:31:12.567-08:002011-03-03T06:31:12.567-08:00Another use for Charlie Sheen: I've noticed th...Another use for Charlie Sheen: I've noticed that recently he's become very nearly a phrase. At its simplest, someone will begin a conversation or written statement with an opening that can be reduced to,"Let's not talk about Charlie Sheen". This has many uses. The writer may be trying to draw our attention to some pressing matter, usually something to do with politics but don't be surprised if a science blogger tries introducing the latest findings in particle physics or cosmology with this one. In conversation, it's more intimate. It draws the speaker and the listener away from the crowded room and into a more private space; a place without Charlie Sheen. If you are active in the arena of casual sex (or you just get hit on a lot) watch out for this gambit as a pick-up line. A male evoking the unspeakable Mr. Sheen is also presenting his listener with the possibility that he is either a "nice guy" unlike Charlie or that he is the real deal, the dangerous "bad boy" as opposed to some coked out media clown whom we should pass over in silence.Pete Chapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233734367633647697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-1858860284962133322011-03-03T05:33:14.559-08:002011-03-03T05:33:14.559-08:00Charlie Sheen is high on Charlie Sheen, but there ...Charlie Sheen is high on Charlie Sheen, but there really is no Charlie Sheen, and that's the problem. There's Charlie Sheen playing "Charlie Sheen" on the talk shows. There's ""Charlie Sheen"" playing his character on his [former?] sitcom. So we kind of have Charlie Sheen qua "Charlie Sheen" qua ""Charlie Sheen"". But no Charlie Sheen qua Carlos Irwin Estevez. The man's narrative is so fractured that it seems for him there is no perceivably real him. Those of us who have slowed down to gaze at the wreckage may have more of an idea who """Charlie Sheen""" is than Carlos Irwin Estevez does because his identity has been sucked into magnetic particles on beta tape, into solid state memory for our spectative pleasure. He's like that woman in William Gibson's Pattern Recognition who senses her soul trailing her physical self when she travels and it, her soul only catches up later, except Carlos/Charlie has no idea that the bungie cord attaching his soul to himself snapped.<br /><br />He knows there's a problem and it comes out in the near-psychotic pressured speech of self-loathing disguised as arrogance. He should try doing a Chapelle and disappearing, finding a new bungie cord.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-26668453565892819962011-03-02T07:07:25.120-08:002011-03-02T07:07:25.120-08:00Clearly Charlie Sheen is attempting to invoke Bacc...Clearly Charlie Sheen is attempting to invoke Bacchus (or possibly Pan) through the time-tested magical system of 'method acting'. All of us who have been involved with this current know how foolish that is, to invoke Bacchus in such a long-term way. He may be eaten by his 'goddesses' (or by actual Vatican assassins, depending on whether or not the pope has lost his teeth).John Ohnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352441770252592928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-67307746108575748812011-03-02T06:13:39.243-08:002011-03-02T06:13:39.243-08:00Charlie Sheen as a math equation: the heights of h...Charlie Sheen as a math equation: the heights of his excess are equal and opposite to the depths of his despair. <br /><br />It's like watching Sisyphus, except if Sisyphus were less self aware. Charlie doesn't seem to realize that feeling high doesn't mean your holding that boulder up. And each time he realizes his great big rock is back at the bottom, he recommits to pushing it back up, using the same method as before, except this time he's going to do it harder and faster and longer. <br /><br />I don't know what's harder to watch: Charlie or the pure joy people derive from watching him self-combust. At least for the latter, it's because they are just grateful that it's not them, but for the grace of God -- whether they're aware of that fact or not.DIIILacrosse.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14948547236801499145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-46369963006261420022011-03-01T22:02:52.280-08:002011-03-01T22:02:52.280-08:00PS.. total class act that Clooney, GF is gorgeous,...PS.. total class act that Clooney, GF is gorgeous, as is Montanta...I got hooked on your writing with your first book/short stories.. I think started with Hard Bargain...I also love Downey Jr... and knew him in his hazy phase (though quite different) on a camping trip where we all took our kids (school) we all slept in crap tents and he pulled up in a silver bullet decked out...music blaring, and pot blowing out of every whole... he's awesome.Rhonda Talbothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007089595774449645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-52314188973846457512011-03-01T21:49:43.562-08:002011-03-01T21:49:43.562-08:00I find him incredibly refreshing in a world fille...I find him incredibly refreshing in a world filled with people too scared to say ANYTHING. I find it interesting no one on that lame show cared about his "condition" or drug problem until he said something about Lorre... then all bets off... show canceled, no more Charlie...Lorre himself does not treat his staff or actors well and if you look at his history, he has been dismissed from many shows, Cybil, Butler, and so on. Now, due to Men, he has another show on the air that does well, so he is holding the power, and all the money. All of his derogatory statements were made quietly..it doesn't mean it hurt any less, I have also known people that worked on his shows..he is also a madman, but a private one.. and is also called Chuck, but not really.. So they lock Sheen out, and he will talk and repeat himself until another story breaks... no one knows what goes on in his head, no one here can diagnose him and it kind of makes me sick all these rehab people "expert" salivating over Charlie... saying he is this and that or whatever... honestly, I'd be mad too.. He put up with that crap for 8 years? People should leave him alone... or give him his own talk show, he's hilarious.Rhonda Talbothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007089595774449645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-10323287587667826382011-03-01T21:47:29.808-08:002011-03-01T21:47:29.808-08:00Excellent piece - and maybe we need more like them...Excellent piece - and maybe we need more like them, and of Victor & other's add-on comments which are so well-written & insightful, maybe we need them to understand what's become of us, of our ever-demanding cultish public society. How we devour what we create ... <br /><br />And maybe Charlie Sheen is my secret post-modern hero.<br /><br />I will divulge a little: that I knew his father, Martin, who, though younger than me, had devoutly stolen my young reporter's beautiful blonde girlfriend (but, decently, only for one night) in Norfolk, Va. (Omni Hotel) while he was lead in some futuristic film involving a US Navy carrier. Charlie would have been a toddler & Dad, a great guy back then, only recently forsworn of a certain substance after a heart scare during Apocalypse, & though not yet wholly sanctified, but, yes, Jesus, apparently a crucible. <br /><br />Whcih is to say, between us: Charlie is his father's son. If he can only keep himself from frying, he'll one day be a very interesting old man.<br /><br />Thanks again. I would have paid good money (eh, 5.99 mag price, at least) for your piece & these great comments.Sheldon Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14489235455406360503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-78518658508921684662011-03-01T20:12:54.297-08:002011-03-01T20:12:54.297-08:00thanks for the devastating common sense take down ...thanks for the devastating common sense take down of my gaudy thought fandango, sheldon. hey, i like charlie sheen. i think he's smart. i think he's uncommonly smart. i also am getting sick of people hating on every expression of non-normative brain states. we need madmen. we need them terribly -- especially now. not gadaffi-style madmen, sheen-style madmen. madmen without power over us but who we are free to encounter in the forum. they reinvigorate our pansy-assed everyday way of talking and being. bless them for this. so often they do it while in horrible pain.Walter Kirn or "Walt"https://www.blogger.com/profile/09791836439071305007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4808670041290466552.post-67268515418667192022011-03-01T19:41:49.312-08:002011-03-01T19:41:49.312-08:00Charlie Sheen is useless as a cautionary tale. He ...Charlie Sheen is useless as a cautionary tale. He hasn't died yet, or even suffered in any way that we can confirm. We can only <i>imagine</i> that he must be suffering for his profligacy.<br /><br />Nor is he particularly useful as a social media binding agent. Social media are self-binding. If Sheen did not exist we would be tweeting about Christina Aguilera, LOLcats, Sarah Palin or the features likely to be included in the next model iPad. People have never needed a seed topic to instigate conversation. We just talk.<br /><br />As secret superhero of the id, well, maybe. But he's equally the car wreck that we drive past on the freeway and can't resist craning our necks to catch a glimpse.<br /><br />I suspect but can't prove that Sheen is suffering from some kind of genuine physiologically-based mental health disorder, quite possibly manic depression. In interviews he sounds relatively lucid but full of verbal free associations and a lot of grandiose thinking, irritability and impulsivity which are common traits of mania. He's not in full-blown manic psychosis, but he seems to have incomplete control of his own thinking and behavior.<br /><br />I've known people with bipolar disorder. It's not a character flaw. It's a neurological condition that affects neurotransmitters in the brain and causes people to behave differently than they would when they are healthy. People who have it are fine when they're not manic or depressed, but sometimes they have an episode. The tricky thing about the manic episodes is that they can actually be <i>enjoyable</i> to the person who is manic, which makes it hard to get them to accept treatment. That's probably what is happening with Sheen right now.<br /><br />The comments I've seen in news stories about Sheen seem mostly full of some kind of moral judgment, calling him an "idiot" or an "asshole." Probably this is colored a bit by envy at all the money he makes and women he gets to fuck. A more appropriate attitude, I think, would be some mixture of tolerance and compassion, or else indifference.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13678421780836507520noreply@blogger.com